Jan 13, 2011

the view



When Jeremy and I met, we had one thing in mind for our future together. Okay, actually we had about a billion things in mind. But one thing stood out the most, and seems to have staying power. I'm trying not to use that word anymore, but as of yet, I don't have a better one to describe this dream of building a little house on a little bit of land, raising our children alongside heirloom vegetables and fruit trees and goats and chickens. Re-skilling might work.

This has been my dream since I was 16 years old. When we stay up at night talking about the future, this is what we discuss. For most of the past eight years we've never had any definite plans in this direction, because we lived in Utah. When we moved to Mendocino County, we set about putting our ducks in a row to make this happen. We met with a mortgage adviser and followed her directions for erasing our debt and establishing credit. We bought a car, as she directed, and kept our rent high, and never missed a payment. We checked out houses in the area, and land for sale. We thought about small-scale meat production, studied sustainable growing methods, took in some chickens and raised a garden -- all in expectation that, some day soon, we'd buy a house and learn to provide for ourselves.

Then Jeremy nearly lost his job, and I realized that it wasn't such a great idea to be self-employed, so we decided that I'd go back to school, and the entire structure of our plans shifted. At the same time, I started doing some serious research, which has precipitated some thinking-outside-the-box.

First of all, I learned that it's extremely difficult to be approved for a mortgage on raw land. There is essentially no collateral, so banks don't like to take the risk. Instead, you can either buy the land outright, or do a private deal with the owner wherein you pay at least 50% up-front. This knowledge is a bit defeating. Land in this area isn't as expensive as I expected, but it certainly is not $5000 an acre like it is in places where nobody wants to live. To buy land outright we'd have to save money for years and years, and then we'd have to try to get a construction loan, which apparently is quite difficult if you aren't planning to build at least 2500 square feet (and we definitely are not).

With this situation we could be looking at close to a decade before we're in our own home. We've considered biding our time for the next four years, until I graduate and start working, and then saving all of my income until we have enough to buy some land outright, and then building a small house... but that's still a very long time.

On to Plan B: buying an existing house on land. That's all kinds of expensive -- the average home in this area runs about $225,000. Of course, that's spread out over 30 years, during which time we may actually pay more in interest than the cost of the house, and we might see the value flip at the whims of the market, and there are endless property taxes and regulations and fees and repairs, and if we have a major financial collapse due to illness or job loss, we could lose it altogether. It's hard for me to understand why anyone should aspire to this, but this is the generally-expected method of becoming a homeowner.

There are thousands of homes for sale in this area, many of them on at least an acre, and of course it's a buyer's market, so I'm not sure why I'm so hesitant to even consider this. Other than everything I said above about mortgages and taxes and the market and the risk, I mean. Maybe because the houses in our price range would need a lot of work, and I don't want to carry that albatross for the rest of my life? Maybe because I want a small house, the chance to live lightly and sustainably, and those houses are few and far between?

Or maybe it's just that I don't want to be a slave to the bank for all of my days. I can't expect that our jobs and income will always be secure, that Social Security will exist when we're 65, that investments are wise. I don't want to owe anything to anyone, and live at tremendous risk. But more than that, I want true freedom, of the sort that is essentially unknown now. 

"Where a man is compelled to labor at the will of another, and to give him the greater portion of the product of his labor, there Slavery exists; and it is immaterial by what sort of compulsion the laborer is subdued... What difference does it make, if you can starve him, or alarm him for the subsistence of himself or his family? And is it not under this compulsion that the 'free' man labors?"

So we started looking into alternatives, like land-sharing, or house-sharing, or joining an eco-village, or arranging private leasing options with land-owners. In the meantime, we thought it might be smart to downsize in a serious way.

When I decided to go back to school, I carried a lot of guilt because I knew I wouldn't be able to work in the meantime. Jeremy continues to carry the burden of our finances entirely on his own, which has never been our intention. Anyone living on a teacher's salary knows how lean it can be, and still he is equally involved in the raising of our children and the upkeep of our home -- I'm the one who isn't stretching.


So I thought back to our friend Patrice, who lives on 40 gorgeous acres in Hopland, about 15 minutes away. Her son is in Jeremy's class, which is how we got to know her. Several times she's offered us a caretaking position on her farm, a chance to live at her place rent-free in exchange for handling the animals and doing general upkeep on the land. We've never taken her up on it -- primarily because we were obeying our mortgage adviser's admonition that we needed to keep our rent high. But now, it's time to move on from the concept that spending as much money as you make creates a good citizen, a reliable consumer, a trustworthy debtor... that one should even aspire to being a debtor at all.

Our accommodations would be very, shall we say, rugged. The studio, cut out of the barn upstairs, is a sweet little place, but it has no running water, no bathroom, and no kitchen! The couple who are living there now share the bathroom and laundry facilities in the Big House and use a composting bucket in the studio. Like I said... rugged.

Of primary concern is that the land runs on well water, which occasionally runs dry, especially in the summer. But the land is also badly in need of some rainwater catchment systems. I think I could handle a composting toilet, and brushing our teeth in a cup, in lieu of a bathroom -- the kids are too young to care about such things. We could store water in the studio. We went years without a washer and dryer -- even with two kids in cloth diapers -- so that won't be an issue. The studio does have electricity, so the couple living there now have hooked up some cooking implements, and there will be a woodstove installed soon.


It wouldn't be pretty, but I feel like I could put up with a lot to have no rent. Including utilities, we'd be saving at least $1200 a month. That's half of our current income. And we'd be learning the most valuable skills imaginable. I'll be doing most of the work, and this is about what I'd make if I had a regular job -- but I'd be producing for someone else, essentially unskilled labor that would take me away from my family.

If this works out, we could be in a very nice place.


Of course, it won't work out exactly like this! I can think of a hundred different existing and potential hitches just off the top of my head.

But I think it's worth a try.

This is our dream, after all: raising our children in a breathtakingly gorgeous place, doing work that nourishes our family and our community, raising animals, growing food, working cooperatively with other people in a shared vision, developing practical skills that are all but lost, providing for our own needs -- living small, but beautifully. How can we not make the effort?

By the way... this? is the view.

15 comments:

rachel whetzel said...

TOTALLY worth it!! Just based on the view alone!! lol We live in a cheap rent house on some land... and I will NEVER go back to paying through the nose. It's a tiny place. But truly, the location is what makes it all worth it.

Chandelle said...

Rachel... thank you. I worried about posting this because I figured I'd get a bunch of "don't do it!" comments. I appreciate knowing that at least one person understands this impulse!

It IS all about the location, yes. When I checked out the barn studio at night I could hear the cow lowing outside but see NOTHING out the windows -- it was completely pitch-black with very few houses nearby, high hills all around, and a million billion stars in the sky. At that moment I thought, Psh, who needs running water anyway?

killing Mother said...

Good luck to you Chandelle. I hope everything works out as you have planned. There is no sense of security in life as good as having a piece of land and knowing how to live with it and off it.

I will add one bit of personal experience, as my family and I are now about 20 years down the road from where you seem to be. We first also hesitated about getting a mortgage on our first property, a small piece of land with an even smaller house. Being in debt for 30 years is a daunting prospect. However, we realized we were paying rent anyway and would have to pay rent no matter where we lived, so we substituted mortgage for rent. Then we paid off the mortgage in 10 years rather than 30. Every spare piece of change that came our way, we threw at the mortgage. In the meantime, we updated the property. When the mortgage was paid off, we sold the small house at a nice profit and used the proceeds to buy our current dream property outright without a mortgage. Now we are truly free.

I hope the same good fortune comes your way.

Jenni said...

See if you can get your hands on the book "Arctic Homestead." Norma had 5 young kids (Ages 2-10) when they started their homestead north of fairbanks. The book is thoroughly inspiring for someone who wants to really be independent.
AND, I think the idea of building slowly, on your own, paying cash, etc is wonderful. Alaska is one of those places where you can get land for cheap (less than 5k/acre even) and yes, that's in places we want to be. ;) As soon as we can sell our house in UT, and get tenure here (aka job security), then we'll buy land and start building on our own. We don't want quite as small a house as that, but definitely less than 2000ft. We've been researching earthbag building and strawbale building and most of those options are not very good for the cold here, but we're now researching underground/log with passive solar (and geothermal heat + a wood stove) and it's pretty exciting. Dang, now I need to go write a blog post about our dreams I guess. :)
I'm SO excited that you get to start living your dream!! A lot of people are too scared to DO what they dream of. We get naysayers all the time... I have long respected you for doing what you believe in, no matter how 'weird' it is. A lot of others look to the few who *do* and are inspired by them.

Laurie said...

What the heck - go for it. You won't know until you try, and you'll be kicking yourself if you don't.

Chandelle said...

kM, thanks for your insight. None of this is set in stone; it's just an idea for now. So I can't rule out the possibility of a conventional mortgage down the line. When we were considering a mortgage it was based on the logic that if we're going to pay rent anyway we might as well direct the funds into a mortgage. Instead, we have the option of not paying rent and directing those funds into a home we could own outright. If it comes down to renting again, though, we'll be back at square one. Either way, your example will come very in handy!

Jenni, I've been all talk for a long time, because I've never had the funds to be a doer! But maybe this is a way to squeak around that little problem. :) An underground home sounds perfect for your needs. I love that concept as well. (And I should say, $5000/acre in places where only a select few very special people want to live. :)

Laurie, I think that's true. Thanks!

cc said...

Wow, I can understand the allure of this from a few angles, but when I really sit down and think about doing something like this myself, it terrifies me. So hats off to you! :)

I like the idea of having less and wanting less and being closer to the earth in many ways, but I think I would have to start gradually immersing myself in this type of lifestyle. Otherwise I would resent too much of what I'd have to give up. But I think it is a wonderful goal. I see myself in an old home on land some day, but I don't think I could handle being that close in proximity to other people that much of the time. I'd need a BIG older home ;) Not sure why, but I need my space. Of course, I'm sure that is a learned "need" based on wacky american proportion problems.

I really hope this path works out for you. But would you have internet?! How would we know how it's going?! ;)

Oh, and I've always wanted to know...does your OCD tendencies ever make it difficult to interact with the chickens and other farm animals? I'm not sure I could get over that one.

NessaAnn said...

My family has lived in an RV a couple times on property we've bought. We all count that as some of our best family times! The key is a big ground tarp and awning just outside the door, with tables and chairs and a grill and washing tubs etc. so the outside is as much the living/working/cooking/playing space as the indoors! Worked great for us. I'd love to live in a tiny house someday... unfortunately my husband alone has enough woodworking and photography stuff to fill a tiny house and a half (EYE ROLL!)

Also, have you ever considered moving to another part of the country? Land is much less expensive towards the center of the country, and there are a lot of homesteading types enjoying the moderate weather and cheap land here in the upper-south, where we live. That's specifically why we moved here- we plan to pay off our first house and buy something more home-steadish as our income, savings, and family grow.

Chandelle said...

cc, it might not be immediately apparent, but I am definitely in need of my own space. Actually... maybe not space, per se, but time. I need plenty of time alone, or else I get completely drained. But this time is really not dependent on the size of my home -- just on scheduling. It's not like I can get time alone even in a big house with lots of bedrooms! All that gets me is someone pounding on the door. Only when my kids are at school does it really happen, so it doesn't matter so much what our house is like.

When we're at home, we're all in the same room, as long as we're awake. The kids have never played in their room, only wherever we are. So all of our waking time is already spent in a 12' square. But I think some of the reason this is not so difficult for us is because we don't expect to entertain each other. We're all doing our own thing, and we're not in competition for time or activities. We get along really well this way. But I realize that our kids are little and in the future they'll want more of their own space. At that time we can consider an addition to our house, or a different arrangement.

I will almost certainly have the Internet. The Big House has a connection and we can probably hook up Wi-Fi. I don't know if I could live without Netflix -- I'm not ready for THAT much roughin' it! :) Worst case scenario, I can still post from the library. I'd never leave ya hanging!

As for OCD... it's funny, but no, the animals don't really bother me. I could care less about the poop and everything. What DOES bother me is seeing their homes in disarray. I feel similarly about gardening. It doesn't bug me as much as I'd expect to see gaps or uneven rows, but I don't like to see fences hanging or trellises tangled. So I guess if the thing is living then I'm not so inclined to organize it to death, but if it's inanimate I'm all over that shiz.

NessaAnn, those are great ideas! Thank you. I'm hoping our kids will love living on a farm with almost endless outside space. I think we'll definitely be creating a living space outdoors, especially in the summer! Happily there's a pool on-site, too.

I'm a huge purging advocate, and not inclined to save things just-because, but we have SO many supplies around the house, including a forge in our garage and about a billion Mason jars for food preservation... and Jeremy is a Waldorf teacher so he needs a ton of books and art supplies and instruments and other things for his classes... and the supplies issue only gets worse as we take on more self-sufficiency learning projects! This worries me, definitely. Some of it, we can handle by renting storage space, or building something outside... I don't know. We'll see what happens I guess! That's the worst thing about living in a space that's larger than you need. Somehow your stuff expands to fill it!

As for moving, definitely not. Jeremy looked for over a year to find this job and this is not the time to look elsewhere. Higher education is amazingly affordable, our community is excellent, our environment is perfect. I can't imagine living anywhere else -- which is a very big deal for me. I've never even felt comfortable, much less truly satisfied and happy, anywhere else. So for now, at least, this is it. But we have actually felt drawn to that area before, so if we ever have to leave here, that's probably where we'd look.

Ciaran said...

Chandelle, go for it! The only downside in the whole thing is the 15 mile commute but it's hard for me to imagine a more beautiful drive, except perhaps, one on the coast. :)
Based on personal experience, I'd say go for the RV, if it's large enough for you. It has a kitchen, right? You need a kitchen; however small it may be, you need a kitchen. You already know how to live in a small space, and NessaAnn's comment about the tarp and awning is spot on. That designated outdoor space can make all the difference.
I wish you the best of luck in this endeavor. It sounds like just what you've been working toward. Remember, the journey never stops; detours sometimes, but never stops. Much love.
PS Cod and dashi for dinner. Most excellent. Thank you for that.

mckenzie said...

This is the first time I've come across your blog, but it was obviously fateful. We're entering into a similar phase in life. Obviously buying land or a house by ourselves is just not an option, and if it were, not a risk that we would realistically want to take.

I think you should go for this. For one, it's beautiful, but more importantly, opportunities like this come around so you can get to the next step. They have things to teach us. Every time we've taken a leap so large as this, the universe has seemed to be very pleased. Good things happen left and right. There will be rough patches, but they're only a test of your endurance. The more you endure, the more you are given in return. At least that's what I've come to believe...

You could even do both- rent the RV and live in the barn. You'd have the amenities of each while you built your little house. With children AND two individuals, winter is made much easier if there's at least one extra room with a door to close. Privacy is helpful at times, no matter how great of a team you are. I hope you take this plunge and look forward to reading more about the adventures that will follow. :)

Lily Girl said...

Chandelle - I am so excited for you! What an amazing opportunity. I'm looking forward to seeing what you learn and how you guys make it work. And what a beautiful environment in which to learn!

NessaAnn said...

Chandelle, I totally hear you about all the STUFF. One half of me LOVES the idea of purging it all and having a minimalist lifestyle. But the frugalista/homesteader/old lady in me can't imagine ditching all the things I've collected (most for free or nearly free) like all my canning supplies, my food storage, the clothes I've gotten for free in many sizes for my kids now and later, my sewing/crocheting/craft supplies. Not to mention the tools/supplies for my husband's woodworking/side job as a photographer. And gardening stuff! Ack! Those things give us a VERY inexpensive, responsible lifestyle because we am able to make/create so many of our things. We would have to buy more, it seems like, without them. So I stew. :) And YES we have had to rent a storage unit before, too, when in a moving/transition stage! It was worth it!

Farm Girl said...

Chandelle,
You need to come for a visit. The life you are thinking about is easier to achieve than you think.

We moved to our property when Grant was just one month old and it was snowing. We climbed a 6' ladder to get into my front door for about 6 months. We had no running water so it was all brought in. The bathroom was (and still is) an outhouse across the creek. We only had a generator for power and a few bare light bulbs for light. I cooked on a Coleman Camp stove, had 2 cooler for refrigerators and did all of my cooking from a 6' folding table. I boiled water to do dishes by hand in dish pans. Our only heat was a couple of "Mr. Heaters" and didn't do the best job. By everyone's standard we were living extremely rough, but it was our little house. But we were here on our amazing property and although very broke at the time we had each other. Still by a lot of people's standards, we are living rough even though we have many more amenities than we used to. We built our house for around $10,000 and even though it is not finished it is comfortable. I hope you will come and visit and see how worth while the choice to simplify can be.

growandresist.com said...

Thanks for the shout out. And, I am so glad to have found your blog! So many ideas and things to make me think! I can't wait to dig in.
I'm in nursing now and have considered doing nutrition...funny!