Should women, for example, have curves?
Are women only allowed to have curves if they are the right curves, in the right places (breasts and hips, yes, thighs and shoulders, no, and breasts and hips only if they are carefully contained, because huge pendulous breasts are just gross, and too-wide hips will cause heart disease)?
Are curves acceptable only if there is a tiny little waist between them?
What qualifies women as heavy? Fat? Skinny? Fit? "Regular"?
Seems like people accept the idea that women can be skinny and unfit ("if all she does is sit around eating potato chips all day"). But the idea that a woman can be both fit and fat is a bit more problematic. Either way, it is definitely accepted that women should be fit.
Very few people seem to wonder whether it's anyone's goddamn business.
Whether it's appropriate to wonder at all what women should look like. Or if perhaps the only person qualified to judge a body is the person living in it.
There's an interesting backlash occurring now, against the idea that skinny is the beautiful ideal for women. Never mind what is meant by "skinny." Does skinny mean bony, for example? Or does it mean muscularly lean? It's not defined. Just skinny. That's been the ideal for at least as long as I've been alive.
I have never been and will never be skinny. So yes, I've felt marginalized. I've hated my body because it didn't fit the magazine ideal. I've worried. I've dieted. I've obsessed. Like most women, apparently.
Mostly, I'm over that. I like to be healthy, and I understand that my weight has very little to do with that. Except that it's psychologically UNhealthy to worry and obsess and, especially, diet.
So I'm in the process of letting go of the ideal. I never read or even glance at women's magazines. I try not to compare myself to other women. I find something beautiful in everyone. I remind myself daily, "There is no ideal body. There is only your body."
I see that so many women are undergoing this process. Sadly, we sometimes lack the emotional maturity to avoid making others feel like shit as we have, for so long, felt like shit. And so we say things like, skinny isn't healthy. Skinny isn't strong. Skinny isn't... biologically appropriate?
Real women have curves! How many times have you heard this lately? I used to say it myself. I'd liken this to a person attempting to elevate women by demeaning men. Men are stupid. Men are weak. Men are the problem.
Flipping oppression just spreads the shit around.
If only curvy women are real women, what is a skinny woman? A cardboard cutout? A hologram?
What she is, is degraded. And I don't need to denigrate thin women to feel better about my curves. What helps me to feel better about my body is to realize that all bodies have inherent worth. I appreciate all bodies and that helps me to appreciate my own body.
Recently, in the real food community, there has been a certain amount of "skinny-bashing" occurring. The argument goes like this:
"Traditionally" (whatever that means), women were not skinny. Skinniness itself is a new phenomenon, and is as much a product of industrialized eating habits as extreme obesity. Men who are attracted to thin women are indoctrinated by societal expectation, because "real men" like women with a little "junk in the trunk." Besides, women need a certain amount of fat to be fertile, and only real women are able to reproduce. Skinny women (who must get that way by deprivation dieting, specifically avoiding fat) therefore are infertile, unattractive, and indoctrinated, and therefore not "real." To whit:
"...a real woman’s body is just soooo much more beautiful and sexy than a bony one! Any guy will tell you that."So a "real" woman's body is not "bony" (any guy would tell me that, apparently). It's OK to be OK with a pear shape as long as I don't have "enormous hanging boobs" which are "anything but sexy." I can be labeled exclusively by comparison to an inanimate object (hourglass or muffin) and I'm "supposed to" have curves even if I am VERY FIT. And if I'm outside of the magical golden ratio I guess I'm just fucked... or not, as the case may be.
"I’m always going to be a pear shape, and I’m ok with that. I see so many big women with enormous hanging boobs that are anything but sexy, and I’m so glad I’ll never have to wear one of those industrial-strength bras to lug mine around."
"28-year-old male here and there is nothing wrong with a woman looking like a woman... I’ll take a butter-eating hourglass over a Diet Coke-drinking muffin top any day."
"I love my wife’s curves! Now she is VERY FIT… but still has curves like a woman is supposed to."
"A too-large middle in relation to top and bottom, or a too-small top and bottom in relation to middle, is not sexually attractive."
Don't I feel liberated!
The thing is, if you write an article entitled "Real Women Have Curves," you'll get at least a hundred positive comments even if you spend the entire article promoting a universal beauty ideal that is no less restrictive than heroin chic. (The "hourglass" shape is also the rarest -- less than 8% of women.) Maybe this is because "curvy" women are so accustomed to being shat upon that any congratulations feels like a balm on a bleeding burn. But this kind of accolade is a trap. We don't need equal-opportunity belittlement.
To hear a woman say "I love my body" is a beautiful thing. But what if she follows that by saying, "...because I'm not one of those bony skinny bitches. MY body is womanly. Women are SUPPOSED TO have curves"? Or, "...because I'm curvy but not FAT. Those gigantic breasts are so ugly"? I don't think that is a beautiful thing, a comradely thing, a feminist thing. It's just another type of misogyny.
Women cannot win, no matter what we do. When I was a teenager I was supposed to have bones sticking out to be considered attractive. Now it's verboten to appreciate a thin body. Thin women want curves. Fat women want to be thin. Curvy women can dump on skinny women and be congratulated for their positive self-image. Nothing is any better than it's ever been.
How can we provide space for all women to find peace with their bodies?
This is me. I am a real woman. I would be a real woman if I had never given birth. I would be a real woman if I were a lesbian or had a hysterectomy or lost my hair or became a nun. I would be a real woman if I were born with ambiguous sex organs but identified as female for all of my life. I would be a real woman if I lost 100 pounds. Or gained 100 pounds. I am a real woman regardless of whether I wear dresses or combat boots (and just for the record, I am vastly more inclined to the latter). I'm a real woman because I say so. Nobody else gets to decide.
21 comments:
WAHOO!!
Thanks for this, Chandelle. Made my day.
Sophia
amen.
and im leaving a link to this in my blog too. it needs to circulate.
actually, on that note, do you know this lovely online collection?
http://theshapeofamother.com/
"Very few people seem to wonder whether it's anyone's goddamn business." This may be my favorite line. It's hard to decide, though, since I agree with every. single. thing. you. typed!
Love your take on this subject too, Chandelle. Bottom line is, it is no one's right to say 'who is a real woman'. And likewise we should not empower those who are trying to diminish others for the sake of building themselves up.
I didn't read the post, and I have no intention of doing so. Like most of the things this person writes, it is all for ratings and views. None of it has anything to do with facts or caring for the feelings of others. I may get called out for saying that, but the title of the post itself is inflammatory even if the content supposedly says otherwise.
I'm not even sure what to say but feel compelled to say something. I feel like adding to what you've written here would just trivialize it somehow. So I will simply say 'Brava'.
Absolutely "it is no-one's goddam business" because I am the size I am and you are the size you are and we are women. I find this with age aswell. I have a head of grey hair and have been for a few years and I'm 42 and I don't really care if I look old or my age or young. I look the 42 that I am. As with my body I am the size that I am.
Very thoughtful post. I'm not too sure what the take-away is.
I know I'm a woman, I guess I just want to know how to feel okay about how I look when in my head I always hear other people clamouring to tell me that I'm not enough.
When I look in the mirror alone (esp. naked) I feel beautiful. But then when I'm out and around other women I feel ugly. What's with that?
Thanks for the supportive comments, everyone!
Natalia, I think your experience is shared by many women. I have felt burned by women because of how I look, but I've never had a man say a negative thing about me (to my face, at least!). It's women who easily make me feel like crap. We don't need any man to oppress us -- we do it just fine on our own, to ourselves and each other.
I can't help but compare my body to others', but I try to be conscious of it. I'm not only a round woman, I'm tall as well, so I feel most discomfited around women who are both short and skinny. The best way I've found to feel better about myself is to help others feel better about themselves, as-is. I know that my short & skinny friends have their own doubts and worries.
Yes, thank you, amazing, awesome. Our society doesn't seem to be ready for this yet, but the more voices we have claiming equal right to exist and *be*, the better. Thank you!
I loved this!!
I love it!
Really well put. I had a really hard time with that post, especially after I thought about it more. I'd love to look like Scarlette Johansson but would have to work out like a fiend, diet, and have plastic surgery! There's too much to live up to and I'm starting to realize how much time i waste by thinking about my body. I waste so much time thinking about the flab instead of enjoying life and being happy. Maybe realizing that is the first step.
On another note, it seems like there has been a lot of women comparing themselves to other women lately. I read another blog about a month ago which was responding to a negative comment someone (I think a woman) made about a group of Paleo women who didn't seem "fit" enough. When I looked at the pictures this person was referring to, I thought all of the girls looked great!! How sad it is that we so judge each other. Sometimes it makes me not want to go outside. I have certainly missed events or dreaded them because of the way I looked. Sad, sad, sad.
I'm catching up on my CT reading, and I enjoyed this insightful post. I have always been smallish, and like most of us, I have scrutinized my appearance and made unhelpful comparisons. It's a waste of time.
Moving from the South helps. Way up here, we are all wearing so many layers most of the time that it's easier to focus on the function of the body rather than the shape/adornment/size.
Thank goodness, finally someone wrote it they way it should be! I was infuriated by that horrible post " real women have curves." Who the hell is she to decide what a real woman looks like!
My favorite line from you: "Flipping oppression just spreads the shit around." AMEN!
I think the real food community should stand together instead of trying to create images of what is or is not accepted/acceptable.
I love that you included a current picture of yourself as well. Maybe as a follow up post you could have your readers send in pictures of the "real" them and then you could post them together. Big, small, tall, short, saggy boobs, implants, stretch marks, gay, straight, menstruating, post menopausal. - But then again who's F-ing business is it anyways!
Either way this post ROCKS!
This. Was. Awesome. Thank you for saying what I've been wanting to say for some time.
A friend posted this link on Facebook (which is how I discovered this post, and you), so I decided to write a companion post. It's not necessarily in response, but an "I-agree-with-what-SHE-said" kinda thing.
Feel free to read it. I give you props:
http://www.wittytitlehere.com/2012/05/too-thin-for-feelings-too-fat-for-love/
A-fucking-men! This needs to be viral. I have so much to say... but... you get it! Love Elle xo
This is great. This is what everyone (men and women) need to hear and realize. Thank you for this.
What a brilliant post, you said it! I too am a real woman, I have no boobs and a thick trunk, I am neither fat nor skinny, I have no curves or boney bits, truth be known I am a bit like a sausage, but I am a REAL WOMAN :)
Thank you for this. *Thank you.*
Oh my god. This post. I love you. Amazing.
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